There are two ways to be in this business, and for years I thought I was only in one of them.
I build the place. But before I built anything, I spent a long time inside other people’s hotels, studying them. Not as a guest. Taking notes, asking questions, working out what they were doing that no brochure would ever tell me. I’ve written about what I was looking for, and it was never the marble.
Those years left me with something I hadn’t planned on. People. Directors, concierges, general managers, a few owners. Relationships that outlived the trips that produced them.
So a while ago I did something that surprised me more than it surprised anybody else. I became an independent travel advisor as well.
Not for the commission. For the exact reason Emily describes below: hospitality travels through people, not through categories. And the only way I know to move it around the world is to know who is standing behind the door when my guest walks in.
Which is why, when somebody asks me to plan a trip, the first thing I check is never the property. It’s whether there’s a person inside it I trust. I’ve since written that test down as twenty-three questions. If I don’t have that, I’d rather lose the work. I have lost it.
So this is a strange conversation for me to be in. Emily chooses places for people who could go anywhere. I do that now too. I also run one, and eighteen years in this business, eight of them behind my own door, have shown me what it costs to keep a promise like that from the inside.
We’ve never worked together. So we did something simple. We each answered the same three questions, separately, without seeing what the other had written. Then we put the answers next to each other.
I expected agreement. I got it. What I didn’t expect was the one place we come apart.
One. What really makes someone choose a place today, beyond price and photos?
Emily
When I sit down with a client to plan a wellness trip, they almost never lead with the room category or the price. They lead with a feeling.
“I want to come back feeling like myself again.” “I want the kind of place where I don’t have to make decisions for a week.” “I want somewhere I would never have found on my own.”
Photos and price get a property onto the shortlist. What gets someone to actually book is the sense that a place has a point of view. That the people who built it believed in something specific about how a guest should feel by the end of the stay, and that walking through the door will hand you a small piece of it.
A client I placed at a small property in the south of France last spring emailed me on day two of her trip, unprompted, to say “I finally understand what you meant when you said the owners had a point of view.”
She could not have named what she was responding to. But it was there, in the pace of the meals, in the way the staff spoke, in the fact that nobody was performing hospitality at her. They were just doing it. That is what a point of view feels like when it lands.
I choose places for clients the same way. I look for the point of view first.
Mattia
April 2018. A few weeks before we opened, a businessman from Treviso came to look at the place. He was seventy-five and he spoke quietly. He walked around for ten minutes and said nothing at all.
Then: “Ferro, it’s beautiful. But I still haven’t understood whose place this is.”
It took me years to work out that he’d handed me the entire brief in one sentence.
Nobody chooses a place because it’s beautiful. Beautiful is a commodity now. Anyone with a budget can buy it, and four thousand eight hundred other Italian hotels already have.
People choose a place that visibly belongs to somebody. Something a person decided, not something a committee assembled.
Eight years later the same man came back. He said: “Now you can see your way of doing things right away.” Almost none of the furniture had changed.
Price and photographs get you compared. Only a point of view gets you chosen.

Emily looks for the point of view first, across dozens of properties. I couldn’t see my own from inside the place. It took a stranger with no reason to be kind.
Same test, opposite direction. And there’s a warning in that for anyone building something: if you built the place, you’re the last person who can tell whether it has a point of view.
Two. What makes a stay memorable enough that people are still talking about it months later?
Emily
The memorable stays my clients bring up months later almost never have anything to do with the amenity list.
Last October a client emailed me from a small hotel in Umbria to tell me about the housekeeper who had learned, by day two, that she liked her coffee left outside the door rather than brought in on a tray, and had adjusted without being asked.
She had never mentioned the preference to me, and she had not mentioned it to anyone at the property. She simply arrived, was noticed, and left with something to tell people about.
What produces moments like that is not a service standard. It is a culture inside the property where the staff themselves are cared for well enough that they can pay attention to the guest in front of them.
Real hospitality shows up when the conditions inside a property support it, and guests can feel the difference immediately, even when they cannot name it.
That client has already asked me to send her back next October.
Mattia
July, our third season. A guest I’ll call Marco was back for his second year, with his wife. He was sitting at the table under the larches, reading. I walked past with a coffee and asked whether he’d slept well.
There was a pause.
“Yes,” he said. “But last year there was that blanket. The heavy one. The gray one.”
He was right. We’d changed suppliers over the winter. The new blanket was more expensive, and better by every technical measure anyone could name.
It wasn’t the one.
I didn’t apologize. I wrote it down.
The following year, when Marco booked, I sent him a single line before he arrived: the blanket you remembered is back.
He came. He brought his brother-in-law.
No property management system on earth was ever going to catch Marco’s gray blanket. What caught it was somebody deciding, on a July morning with a coffee going cold in his hand, that a sentence about bedding was worth writing down.

This is where we come apart, and it’s worth slowing down here.
Emily describes the housekeeper who learned how a guest wanted her coffee left. I describe a blanket I wrote down because a man paused before answering me. Same thing, two different chairs.
But she puts it down to the culture. I’d have put it down to the system.
I’ll come back to that, because I’ve changed my mind about which of the two is the hard one.
Three. What makes someone come back, when they could go anywhere?
Emily
When I started my career at The Breakers in Palm Beach, we had a concierge level. The rooms up there were a little nicer, and the amenities were fine, a few extra touches that any luxury property could have matched. That is not what people were paying for, though most of them could not have told you that.
What they were paying for was the concierge himself.
He built real relationships with the guests on that floor, the ones who came back the same week every year. He knew their children’s names and how they were doing in school. He knew which anniversary this trip marked.
He knew the restaurant they always wanted the first night and the table they preferred once they got there, and he had it all arranged before they landed, so that arriving felt less like checking in and more like being expected.
They were not returning for a room. A room like that existed at twenty other properties on the same coast. They were returning for the feeling of walking into a place where someone already knew them, where the year of their life since the last visit would be asked about, in detail.
That is the thing the world almost never offers a person, and it is worth more than any suite.
Here is what stayed with me. When that concierge eventually moved on, some of those guests quietly stopped coming. The building had not changed. The amenities had not changed.
What had left was the one person who held all of it, and nobody had ever thought to ask him to write down a word of what he carried in his head.
Mattia
Five years ago Manuela Arcuri booked with us. In Italy she is the kind of face people turn to look at. I was terrified.
Not about the suites. I chose everything in them myself, down to the cutlery. I was afraid she’d look around and decide she’d come to the wrong place.
The next morning she’d ordered breakfast on her terrace for eight o’clock. At eight thirty it hadn’t been touched. In my head it had already gone wrong.
She came out at nine and apologized for being late. She’d slept well.
I told that story for years as if the suite had done it. It hadn’t. Neither had the sleep. She has been coming back for five years because of how my team treats her when nobody is filming. The same way they treat the family next door.
She’s brought friends. Nobody ever paid her to say a word about us.
When my partner Jessica and I are in Rome, we have dinner with Manuela. It started with one small act of attention. It became a friendship.
People don’t come back for what they were given. They come back for who they were allowed to be while they were there.
Read those two answers again and look at the words. Emily wrote that they were returning for the feeling of walking into a place where someone already knew them. I wrote that people come back for who they were allowed to be. Neither of us had seen the other’s sentence.
That isn’t a coincidence. It’s what happens when two people describe the same thing honestly from opposite ends of it.

The part we disagreed on, and why it matters more than the part we agreed on
I’d have said the system. Emily said the culture. Eighteen years in, here’s where I’ve landed.
The system is the part I could build. Write it down, put it somewhere a colleague will read it before the guest arrives, act on it. That’s work, and any property willing to do the work can have it by Thursday.
The culture is the part I had to earn, and it took years longer, because no procedure will ever tell you which sentence matters.
A property management system will hold a thousand preferences. It was never going to tell me that the blanket was the one that counted, or that a man pausing before he answers is telling you something about the year he’s had.
Emily’s concierge isn’t an anecdote. He’s a pattern, and it has a number.
I once spoke to a hotelier running a property at six hundred euros a night whose rate of returning guests had fallen from fifty-eight percent to thirty-four in two seasons. He changed the property management system, rebuilt the spa, bought a loyalty program nobody used. It was none of that. It was the same thing Emily watched happen, and it cost him four in every ten of the people who used to come back.
And this is where my second job stops being a separate thing.
You cannot audit a culture from the outside. There’s no certification for it. No star, no key, no inspection catches it. I’ve read those reports. They measure what a property owns, not what it does at eleven at night when something has gone wrong.
What you can do is know somebody inside. That’s the whole method. It’s smaller than I’d like it to be. When I send a guest somewhere I’m not verifying a property. I’m verifying that there’s a person in it who will notice, and that the place has left them enough room in the day to act on what they notice.
Emily built her practice on that. I ran a property on it for eight years, then built a much smaller version of the same practice, because it turned out there was no other honest way to send someone to a place I couldn’t personally stand behind.
It’s a small claim. It’s the only one I’ve found that holds.
Emily
The reason I have been building my practice this way for the past several years is that I kept watching the same pattern. Beautiful properties where the returning guests stopped returning, and the operators genuinely could not tell you why.
Every time, when you traced it back, what had left was a person. Sometimes a concierge, sometimes a general manager, sometimes a housekeeper who had been there long enough to know which family took which table at Christmas.
What I have come to believe is that the properties that endure are the ones where the operator has done both of the things Mattia and I are describing at once: they have built the systems that catch the sentence about the blanket, and they have built the culture that makes someone care enough to write it down.
Neither one alone survives contact with time. Both together become the thing worth returning to.

So, if you run a place, one question is worth sitting with this week.
If the person on your team who knows your returning guests best resigned tomorrow, how much of what they know would walk out with them?
Write it in the comments. We’re both reading.
Mattia and Emily
Emily Johnson is the founder of Elevate Hospitality Collective, a New Jersey-based commercial wellness consultancy and travel advisory. She spent twenty years working for and advising leaders of the industry including The Breakers Palm Beach, Rosewood, Four Seasons, Taj, Marriott, Kimpton, Meliá, and Disney before launching Elevate to work directly with independent hotels and retreat properties on wellness strategy, sales, and guest experience. She writes about the commercial and editorial future of wellness hospitality at elevatehospitalitycollective.substack.com and contributes trade content to hotels, Hospitality Net, Boutique Hotelier, and HotelSpeak. Her Wellness ROI Audit is here. She books client travel through Fora Travel with access to Virtuoso, Four Seasons Preferred Partner, Belmond Bellini, and Rosewood Elite consortia.
Mattia Ferro founded and runs Luxury Camp at Union Lido in Cavallino-Treporti, near Venice, now in its eighth season: twenty Italian-made suites on wheels he selected down to the last detail, where a night costs more than a thousand euros. He is also an independent travel advisor, with access to Virtuoso. Forbes Italia has written about his work twice, calling him in print in May 2026 an innovator of Italian high-end tourism.





This was great you two!
I really loved when Emily mentioned making staff feel cared for so they can care for guests. That can be felt, and when you can sense that the people at a property love their jobs, it’s the best investment a hotel can make in encouraging guests to return